<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 02 May 2016, at 10:31, Mike Nagie <<a href="mailto:promike1987@gmail.com" class="">promike1987@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">I did a tiny research. Theoretically CSipSimple uses SIP SIMPLE protocol <br class="">for instant messaging. </div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>No, it does not. SIMPLE is a set of specifications for chat and presence. </div><div><br class=""></div><div><a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/simple/documents/" class="">https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/simple/documents/</a></div><div><br class=""></div><div>For SIMPLE chat, MSRP protocol has been defined.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4975" class="">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4975</a></div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">I saw that Blink has SIMPLE protocol (Presence <br class="">Agent mode). <br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Presence is not chat, is something else than chat. Nevertheless Blink implements both chat and presence from SIMPLE specifications and CSipSimple implements neither of them.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Does it mean they can communicate with each other?<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>No, they cannot as CSipSimple has not implemented anything from SIP SIMPLE specifications.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I am not sure they claimed otherwise either, where have you see that CSipSimple implements SIMPLE specs?</div><div><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 16-04-27 10:16:58, Adrian Georgescu wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Blink uses MSRP protocol standardised for session based chat. Eking does not implement his protocol.<br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4975" class="">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4975</a><br class=""><br class="">Adrian<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 27 Apr 2016, at 09:08, Mike Nagie <promike1987@gmail.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">I was wondering how chat actually works?<br class=""><br class="">I use Blink, of course, and the others either Ekiga client or <br class="">CSipSimple.<br class=""><br class="">When I sent something with Ekiga client in the past, the others received <br class="">the message. I could write messages and receive messages.<br class=""><br class="">So now, I'm trying to send something from Blink to Ekiga.<br class="">At the search bar I type "johndoe@sip2sip.info" and I click on the <br class="">'start a chat session' button.<br class="">Blink chat window pops up and I see 'Status Disconnected'. <br class="">I type 'hello', and Ekiga starts to ring.<br class="">Even if I accept the call I see 'Status Ringing' in Blink, and I don't <br class="">receive the message 'hello'.<br class=""><br class="">Other way around, if I write something from Ekiga, nothing happens here.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Between Blink and CSipSimple (Android)<br class="">I opened the chat window, typed something, and Blink said: 'Status: Not <br class="">Acceptable Here'<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Does chat only work between 2 (or more) Blinks?<br class=""><br class="">[I have not tested with v2.0.0 but theoretically CSipSimple supports <br class="">video calls, and it didn't work with earlier versions of Blink, but <br class="">maybe things are changed since then and this is not really about <br class="">'chat', but the question would be the same, does video chat only work <br class="">between Blinks?]<br class=""><br class="">Mike<br class="">-- <br class="">You may be a victim of software counterfeiting<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Blink mailing list<br class="">Blink@lists.ag-projects.com<br class="">http://lists.ag-projects.com/mailman/listinfo/blink<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Blink mailing list<br class="">Blink@lists.ag-projects.com<br class="">http://lists.ag-projects.com/mailman/listinfo/blink<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">-- <br class="">You may be a victim of software counterfeiting<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Blink mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Blink@lists.ag-projects.com" class="">Blink@lists.ag-projects.com</a><br class="">http://lists.ag-projects.com/mailman/listinfo/blink<br class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>